As an aside I should mention that there are a few birders who will be able to identify absolutely everything they see by jizz alone. But such birders are either dodgy or red-hot (you decide) and we're not going to be talking about them any more. No, this post is about you and me, the everyday birder.
So, birds being unidentifiable is a concept with which most of us are comfortable in certain circumstances. However, the notion is not so easy to swallow when the bird is right there in front of you, giving crippling views. Just occasionally though, the everyday birder is faced with a situation where an easily-viewable, well-photographed bird might not be safely identifiable. And when that happens, every fibre of our being screams in protest, because such a bird simply must be identified. So when might this happen? Well, there are a few scenarios, but I'm going to pick just one, because it is painfully relevant right now...
Gulls. More specifically, putative Caspian Gulls. Even more specifically, X78C.
In THIS post some experienced gull-watchers had reinforced my view that the bird was a Casp, and unsurprisingly I was delighted. I am acquainted with several other very capable birders down here in the southwest who, while perhaps having less first-hand experience with Caspian Gull, are thoughtful, analytical observers, and I value their opinions. Matt Knott had already expressed his view that certain features suggested Herring Gull gene influence, and it was Matt's idea to seek some help from the London contingent. But since their input it's all gone rather quiet. Are my fellow SW birders in agreement with their diagnosis, or not...?
Well, until very recently I didn't know. And then Steve Waite got in touch. I think Steve knows I'm always up for a debate, so here's a potted version of his take on this bird...
- The hybridisation issue with Casp, and how they could look, is unknown.
- How can we be sure that the chequered greater coverts, dirty underparts and less-than-impressive size are actually okay for Casp? And to say they are okay is a guess.
- We don't know what the bird will look like as an adult. [Steve showed me an example of a bird which had been deemed okay for Casp as a first-winter, but showed obvious hybrid traits in adulthood.]
In a nutshell there are too many red flags for Steve's liking, and for him it's in the hybrid zone. He then apologised for disagreeing with me, as we never have before on a gull's ID. At which I smiled, because if I'm honest I needed challenging on this. Here's why...
In some areas of bird ID I am a bit cavalier. Not with a poorly-seen bird. No, I'll almost always let them go. A late-May probable Short-toed Lark on Beer Head still grates, but I really didn't get enough to claim it. But with birds like X78C this tendency comes out. An obvious hybrid like some of the vile Aythya duck things I have no problem with, but something like this gull brings out the worst in me. For some reason, "Have it!" is my default position.
I'm in danger of going the same cavalier route with the Sibe Chiff issue, which is exactly why I am trying to research it properly. I hope to reach a point where I can safely call a pale winter Chiff a tristis, but I'm not there yet. Not quite.
Anyway, Steve's challenge to my complacency has prompted me to revisit something I should have thought of ages ago...
British Birds 104 - December 2011 - pp702-742 |
This superb 41-page paper not only analyses the various plumage and structural traits of Caspian Gull, but also provides a scoring system for each, so that you can assess individual birds. In addition it suggests a threshold score, outside which a bird may not safely be identified as Caspian. Assuming my photos provide enough detail I shall duly put X78C through this process, and report back.
Personally I enjoy being challenged on things like this. Hopefully I am open-minded enough to respond positively, and I'm always willing to learn. I try to avoid presenting myself as some kind of 'expert' on anything, because it must be very hard when you have to climb down from such an elevated position to acknowledge a mistake. In my book, good debate drives knowledge.
With grateful thanks to Steve for prodding my conscience thus.
For some reason I can post a comment again, so a good time to congratulate you on your blogging accolade Gav. Couldn’t happen to a better chap.
ReplyDeleteThanks Steve. In future I'll try not to squeeze a years-worth of posts into three months. I think that's cheating!
DeleteHi Gav - more great posts! Interesting too to read the responses from the London birders who see far more Caspians than we do down here. I have to say though that comments like 'evidently from a mixed colony' and 'just make the grade' don't fill me with confidence. My personal feeling is that, as it's still a rare bird in Devon, we should be accepting birds that tick all the boxes. Having said that I'd listen to the guys in London much more than I would me! Our levels of experience are incomparable. I look forward to seeing how your bird scores with regards to the BB article.
ReplyDeleteAs for Sibe Chiffs - I've always been struck by how similar they all look, and personally have no problem calling them tristis. All your birds look spot-on. I haven't done any reading on them for years but I'm pretty sure some Dutch (?)research showed that grey and white birds were all tristis. Mike would be able to give you a lot more info. He's very clued-up on them. All birds I've found have given the bullfinch-like 'fee' or they've been remarkably silent. I've only ever had one singing. Anyway - so good to read your regular posting. Truly great work. All the best. Matt
Thanks Matt! Results are in on X78C. Upcoming post. No spoilers!
DeleteSibe Chiff thing has really got me hooked. I've read lots of stuff on it now, including the Dutch Birding paper you're referring to, where every bird in the study which had been identified as abietinus in the hand (by ringers) returned mtDNA result of tristis!